Meir Posner - I293 - Individual Information

Meir Posner ‎(I293)‎

Given Names: Meir
Surname: Posner

Gender: Male Male

Birth: 1728 (תפ״ח)
Death: 3 February 1807 (כ״ה שבט תקס״ז) ‎(Age 79)‎ Gdansk, Gdanski, Pomorskie, Poland

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Birth

1728 (תפ״ח)

Source: Introduction to Bais Meir on Even Haezer

Publication: Published in 1997 by Machon Moreshes Hayeshivos, Jerusalem Israel
Citation Details: Page 15

Source: Jewish Encyclopedia - Posner, Meïr Entry

Publication: The Jewish Encyclopedia. Funk and Wagnalls, New York 1901-1906. LCCN:16014703 http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com

Note: The year 1735 is unlikely, since that would put his age at his first marriage at 6.

Shared Note: - It is highly unlikely that he was born in 1835 as stated in some sources. In the author's own introduction to the Bais Meir on Even Ha'ezer he states the following:

1. "They married me off at the age of 13 in Posen"
2. "I was there till about the age of 20"
3. "I remarried in Lissa and spent 14 years studying there" ‎(from the age 20 or
21 till the age 34 or 35)‎
4. "I was then accepted as rabbi in Mezrich ‎(Miedzyrzecz)‎ where I did not spend
more than 4 years" ‎(from 34 or 35 till 38 or 39)‎
5. "I then went to Konigsberg ‎(Miedzyrzecz)‎ where I spent 13 years" ‎(till age 51 or 52)‎. Rabbi Buksbaum in his introduction to Sheailos Uteshuvos Bais Meir states that the appointment to the rabbinate in Konigsberg was in the year
5527 ‎(1767)‎.
6. Was appointed to Danzig in 1781 or 1782

With this calculation based on Rabbi Meir's own words, he was born no later than 1731 at the latest. This is even if we ignore the 1767 date of his appointment to Konigsberg mentioned by Buksbaum ‎(I do not know if he has a source for this appointment, and it might be calculated)‎. If we do use the 1767 appointment date, he was born no later than 1729. If there were any time between appointments etc, it is easy to see the birth year of 1728 as being the likely birth year.

Residence

from 1741 (תק״א) to 1749 (תק״ט) ‎(Age 13)‎ Poznan, Poznanski, Wielkopolskie, Poland

Source: Introduction to Sheailos Utshuvos Bais Meir

Publication: Machon Yerushalayim, second edition, Jerusalem, Israel, 1995
Citation Details: Pge 14

Marriage

Miriam Ginzburg - 1741 (תק״א) ‎(Age 13)‎ Poznan, Poznanski, Wielkopolskie, Poland

Source: Rabbi Meir Posner's preface to the Bais Meir on Even Haezer

Publication: Published in 1997 by Machon Moreshes Hayeshivos, Jerusalem Israel
Citation Details: Page 45

Source: Introduction to Sheailos Utshuvos Bais Meir

Publication: Machon Yerushalayim, second edition, Jerusalem, Israel, 1995
Citation Details: Page 14

Marriage

Seril Wiener - 1749 (תק״ט) ‎(Age 21)‎ Leszno, Grodzki, Wielkopolskie, Poland

Source: Introduction to Sheailos Utshuvos Bais Meir

Publication: Machon Yerushalayim, second edition, Jerusalem, Israel, 1995
Citation Details: Page 14

Source: Rabbi Meir Posner's preface to the Bais Meir on Even Haezer

Publication: Published in 1997 by Machon Moreshes Hayeshivos, Jerusalem Israel
Citation Details: Page 45

Source: Geschichte der Juden in Lissa

Publication: Printed in Pinne (Pniewy, Poland) by N. Gundermann publishing house, 1904
Citation Details: Page 318-319

Residence

from 1750 (תק״י) to 1763 (תקכ״ג) ‎(Age 22)‎ Leszno, Grodzki, Wielkopolskie, Poland

Source: Introduction to Sheailos Utshuvos Bais Meir

Publication: Machon Yerushalayim, second edition, Jerusalem, Israel, 1995
Citation Details: Page 14

Occupation

from 1763 (תקכ״ג) to 1767 (תקכ״ז) ‎(Age 35)‎ Rabbi of Miedzyrzecz Miedzyrzecz, Miedzyrzecki, Lubuskie, Poland

Source: Introduction to Sheailos Utshuvos Bais Meir

Publication: Machon Yerushalayim, second edition, Jerusalem, Israel, 1995
Citation Details: Page 15

Source: Geschichte der Juden in Lissa

Publication: Printed in Pinne (Pniewy, Poland) by N. Gundermann publishing house, 1904
Citation Details: Page 319

Occupation

from 1767 (תקכ״ז) to 1781 (תקמ״א) ‎(Age 39)‎ Rabbi of Königsberg Kaliningrad, , Kaliningrad, Russia

Source: Introduction to Sheailos Utshuvos Bais Meir

Publication: Machon Yerushalayim, second edition, Jerusalem, Israel, 1995
Citation Details: Page 15

Occupation

from 23 September 1781 (ד׳ תשרי תקמ״ב) to 3 February 1807 (כ״ה שבט תקס״ז) ‎(Age 53)‎ Rabbi of Schottland, Langfuhr and Weinberg ‎(Danzig)‎ Gdansk, Gdanski, Pomorskie, Poland

Source: Introduction to Sheailos Utshuvos Bais Meir

Publication: Machon Yerushalayim, second edition, Jerusalem, Israel, 1995
Citation Details: Page 15

Note: Tzom Gedalia 5582 ‎(Being Saturday, Tzom Gedalia was delayed to Sunday the 4th of Tishray)‎ - 23 September 1781 is the date listed by Rabbi Y Buksbaum as the date that Rabbi Meir was appointed as Rabbi of Danzig ‎(Gdansk)‎, Schottland, Langfuhr and Weinberg. It is possible that it was the following year on Tzom Gedalia ‎(3 Tishray)‎ 5583 - Wednesday 11 September 1782, that he was selected as Rabbi. This later date would match other sources such as the Jewish Encyclopedia that lists the year as 1782.

Death

3 February 1807 (כ״ה שבט תקס״ז) ‎(Age 79)‎ Gdansk, Gdanski, Pomorskie, Poland

Source: Kuntress Kehilas Schottland

Publication: Written by the Schottland community starting in the year 5542 (1782). In the collection of The Jewish National and University Library, Jerusalem, Israel ( http://jnul.huji.ac.il/ )
Citation Details: 25 Shevat 5567 ‎(1807)‎ entry

Source: Introduction to Sheailos Utshuvos Bais Meir

Publication: Machon Yerushalayim, second edition, Jerusalem, Israel, 1995
Citation Details: Page 15

Source: Jewish Encyclopedia - Posner, Meïr Entry

Publication: The Jewish Encyclopedia. Funk and Wagnalls, New York 1901-1906. LCCN:16014703 http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com

Source: Jewish Tombstone Inscriptions

Publication: Author: Pinner, M. Title: Jewish tombstone inscriptions. Publisher: 1868-1913. Library: Yeshiva University - Mendel Gottesman Library Description : 16 folders in box ; 26 x 13 x 40 cm. Other Title: Title on case: Jewish tombstone inscriptions Notes: Provenance: Dr. S. Zalman Yovely; Mrs. Gloria Abrams; Mr. Michael Landy. Jewish Conservancy Foundation. Notes: In Hebrew, Yiddish, German, and Dutch. Summary: Collection of more than 2200 typescript tombstone inscriptions, arranged by city. Includes Pinner's original letter of solicitation, written in Berlin, 1868, and other letters pertaining to the copying of tombstone inscriptions. Folder 5 includes chronology of Greek and Roman history. Location: Rare Book Room Call Number: MS. 1274
Citation Details: Danzig, Bais Meir Epitaph

Bais Meir Epitaph Manuscript

Source: Sheailos Utshuvos Bais Meir

Publication: Machon Yerushalayim, second edition, Jerusalem, Israel, 1995
Text: The following responses were written after 25 Shevat, 5563 - the date listed by M. Pinner as the day that Rabbi Meir died.

Chapter 3 - Response to a letter received from Rabbi Akiva Eiger on 25 Nisan, 5565 ‎(April 24, 1805)‎
Chapter 8 - Response to a letter received from Rabbi Akiva Eiger on 28 Adar, 5564 ‎(March 11, 1804)‎
Chapter 9 ‎(page 48)‎ - Response to a letter received from Rabbi Akiva Eiger in Kislev, 5565 ‎(Nov 1804)‎
Chapter 10 ‎(page 52)‎ - Response about an event "this summer of 5563" ‎(1803)‎
Chapter 12 ‎(page 65)‎ - Response to a letter received from Rabbi Zalamn off Posen, the Rabbi of Nasielsk on the 12th day of the Omer ‎(27 Nisan)‎, 5565 ‎(April 26, 1805)‎
Chapter 15 ‎(page 80)‎ - Response to an inquiry received from the city of Kamien ‎(Kamien Pomorski)‎ on 18 Tamuz, 5564 ‎(June 27, 1804)‎
Chapter 17 ‎(page 93)‎ - response regarding a judgment in the summer of 5563 ‎(1803)‎
Chapter 42 ‎(page 171)‎ - response to a letter received from Rabbi Avrohom from Vilna, ‎(author of the Chayay Adam)‎ on 2 Sivan, 5563 ‎(May 23, 1803)‎
Chapter 54 ‎(page 247)‎ - letter from Rabbi Akiva Eiger dated Sunday TOV ‎(17)‎ Kislev, 5566 ‎(December 8, 1805)‎

Source: Kisvay Yad / Matzaivos Kevuros Harabanim Ve'anshey Shem

Publication: Berlin, 1861
Citation Details: Page 187, No. 279

Source: Geschichte der Juden in Lissa

Publication: Printed in Pinne (Pniewy, Poland) by N. Gundermann publishing house, 1904
Citation Details: Page 22

Shared Note: - Almost all sources list the death date as 25 Shevat, 5567. Efraim Moishe Pinner's Matzevos Kivros Ha-rabanim Ve'anshe Hashem (also quoted in Geschichte der Juden in Lissa) has a transcription of the monument and lists the death date as Tuesday, 25 Shevat, 5563. This seems to be a typo, since that date was on a Thursday and not a Tuesday. The original manuscript of the transcription held by the Yeshiva University Mendel Gottesman Library was probably sent to M. Pinner by someone in Danzig seems to have the 5567 date, though one can see how it was misread. The Sheailos Utshuvos Bais Meir contains 9 responsa dated after the earlier death date quoted by Pinner in the book.

Burial

4 February 1807 (כ״ו שבט תקס״ז) ‎(1 day after death)‎ Gdansk, Gdanski, Pomorskie, Poland

Source: Geschichte der Juden in Lissa

Publication: Printed in Pinne (Pniewy, Poland) by N. Gundermann publishing house, 1904
Citation Details: Page 22

Source: Kisvay Yad / Matzaivos Kevuros Harabanim Ve'anshey Shem

Publication: Berlin, 1861

Note: Date of 1803 is almost certainly incorrect

Rabbi Meir Posner's Monument Transcription

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Parents Family (F135)
Father	Yehuda Leib Munk -
Mother	Gitel ‎(unknown)‎ -
	Meir Posner 1728 - 1807

Immediate Family (F355)
Wife	Miriam Ginzburg - 1748
Son	Lipman Posner -

Immediate Family (F134)
Wife	Seril Wiener -
Daughter	Fraidel Posner - 1829
Son	Yehuda Leib Posner 1757 - 1772
Son	Chaim Posner - 1838

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Shared Note	Author of the Bais Meir. Might have been born in Mezrich where his grandfather was the Rabbi.
Birth	It is highly unlikely that he was born in 1835 as stated in some sources. In the author's own introduction to the Bais Meir on Even Ha'ezer he states the following: 1. "They married me off at the age of 13 in Posen" 2. "I was there till about the age of 20" 3. "I remarried in Lissa and spent 14 years studying there" ‎(from the age 20 or 21 till the age 34 or 35)‎ 4. "I was then accepted as rabbi in Mezrich ‎(Miedzyrzecz)‎ where I did not spend more than 4 years" ‎(from 34 or 35 till 38 or 39)‎ 5. "I then went to Konigsberg ‎(Miedzyrzecz)‎ where I spent 13 years" ‎(till age 51 or 52)‎. Rabbi Buksbaum in his introduction to Sheailos Uteshuvos Bais Meir states that the appointment to the rabbinate in Konigsberg was in the year 5527 ‎(1767)‎. 6. Was appointed to Danzig in 1781 or 1782 With this calculation based on Rabbi Meir's own words, he was born no later than 1731 at the latest. This is even if we ignore the 1767 date of his appointment to Konigsberg mentioned by Buksbaum ‎(I do not know if he has a source for this appointment, and it might be calculated)‎. If we do use the 1767 appointment date, he was born no later than 1729. If there were any time between appointments etc, it is easy to see the birth year of 1728 as being the likely birth year.
Birth	The year 1735 is unlikely, since that would put his age at his first marriage at 6.
Occupation	Tzom Gedalia 5582 ‎(Being Saturday, Tzom Gedalia was delayed to Sunday the 4th of Tishray)‎ - 23 September 1781 is the date listed by Rabbi Y Buksbaum as the date that Rabbi Meir was appointed as Rabbi of Danzig ‎(Gdansk)‎, Schottland, Langfuhr and Weinberg. It is possible that it was the following year on Tzom Gedalia ‎(3 Tishray)‎ 5583 - Wednesday 11 September 1782, that he was selected as Rabbi. This later date would match other sources such as the Jewish Encyclopedia that lists the year as 1782.
Death	Almost all sources list the death date as 25 Shevat, 5567. Efraim Moishe Pinner's Matzevos Kivros Ha-rabanim Ve'anshe Hashem ‎(also quoted in Geschichte der Juden in Lissa)‎ has a transcription of the monument and lists the death date as Tuesday, 25 Shevat, 5563. This seems to be a typo, since that date was on a Thursday and not a Tuesday. The original manuscript of the transcription held by the Yeshiva University Mendel Gottesman Library was probably sent to M. Pinner by someone in Danzig seems to have the 5567 date, though one can see how it was misread. The Sheailos Utshuvos Bais Meir contains 9 responsa dated after the earlier death date quoted by Pinner in the book.
Burial	Date of 1803 is almost certainly incorrect

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Source

Seder Hayichus Chart
Publication: Completed by Meir Nomberg on 5 Elul 5657 (2 September 1897)
Citation Details: Left side, citation B

Seder Hayichus Chart

Note: Scan of the Seder Hayichus poster owned by Bella Siegfried

Source

Toldos Mishpachas Munk
Publication: Jerusalem 1985

Toldos Mishpachas Munk

Source

Geschichte der Juden in Lissa
Publication: Printed in Pinne (Pniewy, Poland) by N. Gundermann publishing house, 1904
Citation Details: Pages 318-322

Geschichte der Juden in Lissa

Birth

Introduction to Bais Meir on Even Haezer
Publication: Published in 1997 by Machon Moreshes Hayeshivos, Jerusalem Israel
Citation Details: Page 15

Birth

Jewish Encyclopedia - Posner, Meïr Entry
Publication: The Jewish Encyclopedia. Funk and Wagnalls, New York 1901-1906. LCCN:16014703 http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com

Note: The year 1735 is unlikely, since that would put his age at his first marriage at 6.

Residence

Introduction to Sheailos Utshuvos Bais Meir
Publication: Machon Yerushalayim, second edition, Jerusalem, Israel, 1995
Citation Details: Pge 14

Marriage

Rabbi Meir Posner's preface to the Bais Meir on Even Haezer
Publication: Published in 1997 by Machon Moreshes Hayeshivos, Jerusalem Israel
Citation Details: Page 45

Marriage